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From: Derek Buitenhuis <derek.buitenhuis-at-gmail.com@ffmpeg.org>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Moving edit list handling out of demuxers
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 15:41:48 +0100
Message-ID: <11b62e0a-2ded-41a2-a1eb-4263d9753e24@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8d181769cf2af13f7e1c1fe67419374148136f6.camel@haerdin.se>

On 6/13/2025 3:34 PM, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> Interesting. I didn't think to use side data for it. Putting the edit
> lists in AVStream seems wrong. They belong to AVFormatContext. Else we
> can't support ganged or alternate packages in MXF (OP1b, OP1c, OP2b,
> OP2c, OP3b, OP3c), nor could we support IMF. Yes, I know imfdec.c
> exists. It too is cursed.

I don't know what any of that means, but I definitely wasn't aware of any
MXF stuff back then, so probably didn't design for it.

> Here's what I came up with so far for reference. The idea is to just
> stick a pointer to AVEditLists in AVFormatContext. This was written
> before I saw the ABI point and the indirection solution to it.

My main concern here is that it is extremely complex from API
perspective, and approximately zero users will end up using it
correctly (or at all), outside of ffmpeg.c. (From what I can
tell this complexity solely comes from IMF/MXF.)

Probably part of such an RFC needs to contain how it is intended to be
used (integration with existing APIs, functions, etc.). If it
is just these structs, it's essentially unusably complex as
far as I am concerned. (This was an issue with my old RFC too,
but this is even more complex, and hindsight is 20/20). Some
amount of "just works", or a higher level API needs to exist,
I think.

- Derek
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-13 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-13 10:55 Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 12:51 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-06-13 13:28   ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-06-13 14:34   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 14:41     ` Derek Buitenhuis [this message]
2025-06-13 14:21 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-13 14:53   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 14:57     ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-17 20:42       ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 16:19     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-17 21:15       ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-18  3:55         ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-18 10:02           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-18 10:09             ` Nicolas George
2025-06-18 15:50           ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-13 16:22     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-06-13 14:37 ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-17 21:33   ` Tomas Härdin
2025-06-18  4:15     ` Gyan Doshi
2025-06-18  7:17     ` Nicolas George
2025-06-13 16:57 ` Nicolas George

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