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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] remove DEC Alpha DSP & support code
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:14:07 +0300
Message-ID: <110D8221-D4E0-4570-839B-843A5C7A18B2@remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AS8P250MB0744C4585C11B5B4F6ACBE308FC62@AS8P250MB0744.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>



Le 10 juin 2024 16:07:14 GMT+03:00, Andreas Rheinhardt <andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com> a écrit :
>Rémi Denis-Courmont:
>> 
>> 
>> Le 10 juin 2024 14:57:29 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> a écrit :
>>> Also we have alpha fate clients:
>>> https://fate.ffmpeg.org/?query=subarch:alpha%2F%2F
>> 
>> Are there? I only see Ubuntu 22.04 builds which must be cross-compiled since Ubuntu 22.04 doesn't support DEC Alpha, not even as a port.
>> 
>> So I guess the tests are run on user-mode QEMU? For the sake of the argument and to answer your performance question, SIMD on QEMU is in my experience much *slower* than scalar C, due to limitations of TCG. So if that's the goal post, then removing the optimisations is actually a performance win.
>> 
>
>I doubt that the same can be said about removing the fast 64bit and clz
>flags.

Sure. TCG has express support for CLZ and CTZ. We could default to the GCC built-ins on Clang and GCC regardless of fast CLZ though.

IMO the fast 64-bit detection should use some default heuristic for unknown platforms though. We could at least check if UINTPTR_MAX is larger or equal to UINT64_MAX (won't work for 64-bit ILP32 ABIs, but I don't think Alpha has ever had one).

In any case, this may be relevant for some platforms but probably not for Alpha as of 2024.
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-10 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-09 20:08 Sean McGovern
2024-06-10 11:57 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-10 12:56   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-10 13:07     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-06-10 13:14       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2024-06-11  9:35     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-10 12:29 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-10 12:42   ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-11  0:17     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11  0:52       ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-11  9:59         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 11:26           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 13:39             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 14:08               ` Sebastian Ramacher
2024-06-11 14:15               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-13 16:32                 ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-13 21:17                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-14  6:26                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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