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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Repeat vote: GA voters list updates
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 12:28:08 +0200
Message-ID: <10967050.JPrR6NUR4y@basile.remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e3245e3-e71d-4f17-9c5b-ba2087d30049@mail.de>

Le lauantaina 11. marraskuuta 2023, 9.22.19 EET Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel 
a écrit :
> As the admin responsible of the votes it is my duty to have supervision of
> all polls and thus it is my duty to declare this vote null and void for the
> flaws given above.

As noted several times by several people:

1) As far as was communicated, the total of alleged discrepancies in the voter 
list could not affect the result. That makes the vote valid in my book, and 
also in the legal or predecential standards in democracies: if elections were 
overturned for every inconsequential irregularities, they would practically 
never be valid.

2) As Lynne already pointed out, at this point, after results were published 
and voters expressed their frustration with your attempt to recall it, and 
forcing a vote amounts to nothing but manipulation - even if this is perhaps 
not your intention.

If people would vote the same way they did, the result would be the same (as 
per the first point), regardless fo extra voters. So redoing the vote only 
makes sense if you expect to achieve different results by changing people's 
opinion or getting them to abstain.

3) As Anton already pointed out, you do not seem to have standing to declare a 
vote null in the first place. You were trusted to operate the voting system, 
not to determine the validaty of the vote.

4) As a consequence (of the previous point), this is an attempt to abuse your 
privileges as an adminstrator. This will be reported to the CC.

5) You are spreading more unnecessary discredit on the community and its 
processes, and just creatied a new convenient pretext for people to claim that 
the GA, CC and TC have no authority. (Previously the pretext was that the 
later two had expired.) This makes it an attack against the community as a 
whole.

6) That is yet another indirect attack against new developers (including but 
not limited to myself). I do very much take offense.

I declare your mail null and void for all purposes other than the CC 
investigating your potential violations of applicable rules.

It should go without spelling it out but such community-hostile attitude seems 
very ill-advised to me for somebody who is running for CC election or 
reelection.

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
http://www.remlab.net/



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-11 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11  7:22 Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-11  7:58 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-11  9:31   ` Zhao Zhili
2023-11-11  9:39   ` Lynne
2023-11-11  9:42 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-14  9:28   ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-14 12:49     ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-14 15:56       ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-14 16:17         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-14 16:46         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-14 18:44           ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:15             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-14 20:12               ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:19             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-14 19:28               ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:32                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-14 20:10                   ` epirat07
2023-11-14 19:34                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-14 21:02           ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-11  9:54 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11 15:35   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 16:58     ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 18:29       ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11 18:38       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 10:28 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2023-11-11 11:15   ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 11:49     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-11 12:08 ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:43 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-12 13:59 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-12 14:03   ` James Almer
2023-11-12 14:08     ` [FFmpeg-devel] Poll: " Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 16:23       ` Nicolas George
2023-11-12 17:31     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] " Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 17:43       ` J. Dekker
2023-11-12 18:02         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 18:34           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 21:38             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 14:10   ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-20 15:44 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-20 16:06   ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-20 16:08     ` J. Dekker

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