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From: Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: "FFmpeg development discussions and patches" <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: "Cosmin Stejerean" <cosmin@cosmin.at>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] STF 2025
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 01:01:05 +0000
Message-ID: <0101018fe0c3973a-d5044a49-5413-4c25-8f5c-89468699eb0a-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABLWnS8MGt6P1OdcEZf5Ac11KCWAwAJX9s2+jd3oGc4=kMeqHQ@mail.gmail.com>



> On Jun 3, 2024, at 3:58 PM, Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:57 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont <remi@remlab.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Le maanantaina 3. kesäkuuta 2024, 21.58.48 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via
>> ffmpeg-
>>> devel a écrit :
>>>> Not sure why you keep beating this dead horse.
>>> 
>>> Err, I think that it is obvious why:
>>> 
>>> 1) The questions were not answered back then. Calling the people asking
>>> questions troll is not answering, it's insulting.
>>> 
>>> 2) IBC came up today, in much the same way as NAB did.
>> 
>> The costs or lack thereof came up today. Making accusations that it was
>> FFmpeg in name only did not come up until you brought it up, and seems
>> completely uncalled for.
>> 
> 
> Reposting my question/comment here since Thilo hasn't had a chance to
> respond, but shouldn't these kinds of requests go through the GA? If
> anybody can do whatever they want with the ffmpeg name, then what's the
> point of voting and following the established process?
> 

Probably? I'm not actually sure what the process is for getting an FFmpeg booth at a conference. Is there a documented process somewhere for how this should be done? If not this might be a good opportunity to create one.

It might also make for a good topic of discussion at VDD. For how much drama there was about NAB on the list I was surprised there was zero discussion about it at FOSDEM.

> I think this is the underlying problem with booth management, everybody
> acts like they own the place, and nothing changes from one event to
> another, instead of taking notes to improve the situation. For example :
> thilo or you sending a note to the GA "hey i got sponsorship for
> IBC/NAB/whatever, I plan to represent ffmpeg, and have a b c as objectives.
> Is that cool with you all? If yes, can we host GPAC and other multimedia
> foss projects?" would have avoided a lot of drama.

No disagreements from me, I do think that might have avoided a lot of drama.

Regarding the "or you" part, I wasn't involved in securing sponsorship for NAB or IBC. I did volunteer to help with NAB because I happen to live in Vegas and I enjoy spending time with other ffmpeg developers. I'm happy to help at NAB next year as well should it happen again.

I have no plans to attend IBC and no involvement with the FFmpeg booth at IBC. I am merely trying to correct the perception that NAB was cost-problematic, since no money was paid by the project for NAB.



- Cosmin
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-04  1:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-17 13:49 Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 14:43 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-19 11:29   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-17 14:47 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-19 11:29   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-19 12:08     ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-20 18:51     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 18:43       ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-21 19:42         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 19:43           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-21 21:34             ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-21 21:34           ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-22 12:27             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24  7:11               ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-24  7:56                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24 21:42       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 15:08 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-17 19:08   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 15:25 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-17 15:26 ` Derek Buitenhuis
2024-05-17 18:50   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-17 19:22     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2024-05-17 19:54     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-24  9:56 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-24 10:50   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-01 15:19 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-02 18:01   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-02 18:16     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-02 20:14     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-03  6:50       ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03  7:55         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-03 11:35           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]           ` <85865A16-B2BD-419C-857B-445ED6354604@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 16:43             ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 17:36               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                 ` <EF00C7AD-23E4-4AFB-BEC0-F9139F7B6051@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 17:48                   ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 18:18                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                       ` <8BE7B5F7-E7FD-4F73-9239-91B8D289452A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 18:58                         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 19:26                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                             ` <C07B2718-2EDD-42CF-8F2E-BED82E14049A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-03 20:57                               ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-03 22:58                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
     [not found]                                   ` <C3243629-53D2-4595-A82D-35D298B965EF@cosmin.at>
2024-06-04  1:01                                     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2024-06-04  6:53                                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04  6:54                                         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04  7:08                                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 10:09                                             ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 10:50                                               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 12:01                                                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 12:52                                                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 17:38                                                     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-04 18:17                                                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-05  7:20                                                         ` Marton Balint
2024-06-05  8:12                                                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-05  9:18                                                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-05  9:31                                                             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-05 13:42                                                               ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-06  0:07                                                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-06 10:04                                                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
     [not found]                                         ` <546DF7EF-0061-4126-AE81-3CD0EC24ED9A@cosmin.at>
2024-06-04 15:47                                           ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-06-04 18:24                                             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-04 21:21                                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-04 22:23                                                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-03 15:00         ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-03 15:41         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-18 14:41         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-04 15:04 ` Andrew Sayers

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