Hi Ronald

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 05:05:44PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 11:01 AM Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> 
> > The number of people voting was a bit disappointing but
> 
> 
> I can't speak for others, but I saw the vote request and didn't find it
> very serious.
> 

> What I mean with that is: in a regular vote, there's typically two (or
> sometimes more) opposing sides (e.g. parties, people, opinions) that both
> believe they are the best option in the set of available options. Each side
> can argue for its own case and voters can make an informed choice after a
> fruitful and informative debate. (I know this is somewhat idealized.)
> 
> You covered the "yes" side (something about collecting sponsorship money
> into SPI), but nobody made any counter-argument against "yes", e.g. for the
> "no" side. Does this mean nobody supported "no" to begin with and it was a
> strawman in a vote? Whose "side" was the "no" supposed to cover? Who was
> the proponent of the "no", or more generally: who was not on the "yes" side
> and was the reason for the need-to-vote?

i asked 3 weeks before the vote for comments
0909 10:19 Michael Niederm (2.6K) [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Sponsors & Funding
and certainly people did take it serious.

The alternative to my proposal was to leave things as they are, thats
the "default". Noone proposed another option, and that should not be an issue because
people could have voted "no" and presented an alternative later.

I would have preferred alot, if there where more votes

But worse is, if we forever have everything stuck. (and i think you actually
agree on that)

and if you read your mail.
You seem not concerned about Funding
You seem not concerned about FFmpegs future
You seem not concerned about teh Team
You seem not concerned about competitors
You seem not concerned about FFmpeg developers we are loosing (because we have no
way to pay them and they dont want or cant be volunteers forever)

It seems you are concerned, that a decission was made, and not even one you seem
to strongly disagree with, so I dont know. Iam a bit confused.

Iam concerned about FFmpegs future if we cannot overcome these internal issues.

I think we should try to regularly chat with each other to better understand
each other. I dont know exactly but what you say sounds like there are
some misunderstandings here.

thx

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